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j126

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When all is gone, there is still hope
« on: 05 Jul, 2009, 11:59:23 »
Translation: Kai gar hois meden, aute pareste

I've tried a number of different online translators, wondering which is correct?

Babelfish translator:
Όταν όλος πηγαίνουν, υπάρχει ακόμα ελπίδα

Babylon translator:
Όταν όλα είναι φύγει, υπάρχει ακόμη ελπίδα

Google Translator:
Όταν όλα είναι φύγει, υπάρχει ακόμα ελπίδα

Thanks for the help,

Joel
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Re: When all is gone, there is still hope
« Reply #1 on: 05 Jul, 2009, 13:01:54 »
Όταν όλα χαθούν, υπάρχει ακόμη ελπίδα.

Slightly more emphatically: Κι όταν όλα χαθούν, υπάρχει ακόμη ελπίδα.
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Re: When all is gone, there is still hope
« Reply #2 on: 05 Jul, 2009, 14:28:08 »
Η ελπίδα επιζεί και στα χαλάσματα.

More poetic, but it does the trick.
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Re: When all is gone, there is still hope
« Reply #3 on: 05 Jul, 2009, 14:42:13 »
Quote from: j126 on 05 Jul, 2009, 11:59:23
Translation: Kai gar hois meden, aute pareste
But this is ancient Greek, and by whom?  Not Hesiod ...
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Τί δέ τις; Τί δ' οὔ τις; Σκιᾶς ὄναρ ἄνθρωπος. — Πίνδαρος

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Re: When all is gone, there is still hope
« Reply #4 on: 05 Jul, 2009, 16:57:33 »
Η ελπίδα χάνεται τελευταία.
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Re: When all is gone, there is still hope
« Reply #5 on: 05 Jul, 2009, 16:59:24 »
Ή «Η ελπίδα πεθαίνει τελευταία».
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Re: When all is gone, there is still hope
« Reply #6 on: 05 Jul, 2009, 18:26:41 »
@j126:  Here's the full version of your quotation*, attributed to Thales (Plutarch, "Symposium of the Seven Sages," Moralia 1.153d), in the original ancient Greek:

Τί κοινότατον; ἐλπίς.  καὶ γὰρ οἷς ἄλλο μηδέν, αὕτη πάρεστι.

— "What is most common?  Hope.  For those who have nothing else, that is always there."

*Ti koinotaton? Elpis. Kai gar hois allo meden, haute paresti.
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Re: When all is gone, there is still hope
« Reply #7 on: 26 Jul, 2009, 21:34:47 »
Great! Thank you for all the postings!
This was what I was looking for:

Κι όταν όλα χαθούν, υπάρχει ακόμη ελπίδα
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