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Translation Assistance => Other language pairs => Ancient Greek→English translation forum => Topic started by: Nona35 on 02 Dec, 2015, 15:43:10

Title: Ῥῦσέ με δεινῶν νοσημάτων, ἱερώτατε, ἱερωσύνην συναρμόσας ἐν χαρᾷ και ἐπιστήμης τὸ πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον → Deliver me from grievous afflictions, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge
Post by: Nona35 on 02 Dec, 2015, 15:43:10
Hello. Please did I understand well this expression "το πολύτισμον κεφάλαιον" as we say in English "the Godhead"?
Thank you.
Title: Re: το πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον
Post by: spiros on 02 Dec, 2015, 16:24:36
Sounds like "the precious capital" to me.
Title: Re: το πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον
Post by: billberg23 on 02 Dec, 2015, 17:51:57
"The most valuable chapter" (?).  At first sight, it has nothing to do with "Godhead."  Please give source and context.
Title: Re: το πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον
Post by: Nona35 on 02 Dec, 2015, 18:48:21
This is the whole paragraph :
"Ρύσε με δεινων, νοσηματων ιερώτατε, ιερωσύνην συναρμόσας εν χαρά, και επιστήμης το πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον"
Title: Re: Ῥῦσέ με δεινῶν νοσημάτων, ἱερώτατε, ἱερωσύνην συναρμόσας ἐν χαρᾷ και ἐπιστήμης τὸ πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον → Deliver me from grievous illnesses, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge
Post by: billberg23 on 02 Dec, 2015, 21:50:54
This is what I can make of it so far:  "Deliver me from grievous afflictions, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge."  Is this a continuation of the same Orthodox paraklesis you were working on a couple of months ago?
Title: Re: Ῥῦσέ με δεινῶν νοσημάτων, ερώτατε, ἱερωσύνην συναρμόσας ἐν χαρᾷ και ἐπιστήμης τὸ πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον → Deliver me from grievous afflictions, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge
Post by: Nona35 on 02 Dec, 2015, 22:02:27
 yes, walking like a turtle Eh?! :)
In fact, I am studying Ancient Greek along with translating, maybe you find it inappropriate, but I am trying to improve my knowledge, do you have any advice for me?
Title: Re: Ῥῦσέ με δεινῶν νοσημάτων, ἱερώτατε, ἱερωσύνην συναρμόσας ἐν χαρᾷ και ἐπιστήμης τὸ πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον → Deliver me from grievous afflictions, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge
Post by: billberg23 on 02 Dec, 2015, 22:18:09
yes, walking like a turtle Eh?! :)
In fact, I am studying Ancient Greek along with translating, maybe you find it inappropriate, but I am trying to improve my knowledge, do you have any advice for me?
No, only admiration.  And I don't find it at all inappropriate.  Come back any time!
Title: Re: Ῥῦσέ με δεινῶν νοσημάτων, ἱερώτατε, ἱερωσύνην συναρμόσας ἐν χαρᾷ και ἐπιστήμης τὸ πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον → Deliver me from grievous afflictions, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge
Post by: Nona35 on 02 Dec, 2015, 22:30:07
Thank you very much, in fact I had questions but I felt ashamed, for this reason I stopped for a while hoping that you will forget me:) no I am kidding.
Sorry but this "fountainhead" isn't somehow weird?
Title: Re: Ῥῦσέ με δεινῶν νοσημάτων, ἱερώτατε, ἱερωσύνην συναρμόσας ἐν χαρᾷ και ἐπιστήμης τὸ πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον → Deliver me from grievous afflictions, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge
Post by: billberg23 on 04 Dec, 2015, 19:35:07
Sorry but this "fountainhead" isn't somehow weird?
Yes, it is weird, and the expression ἐπιστήμης τὸ κεφάλαιον seems to occur nowhere else in Greek literature.  I'm thinking "head of knowledge" could refer to a primary source, like the headwaters of a river.  Of course, it might also refer to a chief or main principle of knowledge, whatever that might mean.  Perhaps something like Proverbs 1:7, 9:10, and Psalm 111:10 ("The beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord").  But there's no direct indication that it refers to God.
Perhaps someone out there has a better suggestion?
Title: Re: Ῥῦσέ με δεινῶν νοσημάτων, ἱερώτατε, ἱερωσύνην συναρμόσας ἐν χαρᾷ και ἐπιστήμης τὸ πολύτιμον κεφάλαιον → Deliver me from grievous afflictions, most holy one, joining sanctity together in joy with the precious fountainhead of knowledge
Post by: Nona35 on 04 Dec, 2015, 22:54:22
Thank you very much for taking your time. It is always beneficial to ask here.