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Translation Assistance => Other language pairs => Ancient Greek→English translation forum => Topic started by: neugier on 20 Sep, 2016, 23:02:13

Title: ὁ γοῦν κυνικὸς Μένιππος ἁλμοπότιν τὴν Μύνδον φησίν (Athenaios 1.34e) → At any rate the Cynic (satirist) Menippus says that Myndus is a brine-drinking town.
Post by: neugier on 20 Sep, 2016, 23:02:13

Please translate... is it Myndos, drinking see water or the Myndians???

Title: Re: ὁ γοῦν κυνικὸς Μένιππος ἁλμοπότιν τὴν Μύνδον φησίν (Athenaios 1.34e) → At any rate the Cynic (satirist) Menippus says that Myndus is a brine-drinking town.
Post by: billberg23 on 21 Sep, 2016, 00:49:55

Both, as it turns out:   "At any rate the Cynic (satirist) Menippus says that Myndus is a brine-drinking town."  The reference is to the presence of sea-water in the local wine. 

Title: Re: ὁ γοῦν κυνικὸς Μένιππος ἁλμοπότιν τὴν Μύνδον φησίν (Athenaios 1.34e) → At any rate the Cynic (satirist) Menippus says that Myndus is a brine-drinking town.
Post by: neugier on 21 Sep, 2016, 09:31:48

thank you very much.
is τὴν Μύνδον accusative singular femin. of ἡ Μύνδος ?
and what grammatical structure is ἁλμοπότιν (accusative singular? of a verb???)
could you pleeeeeease explain it further?

Thanks in advance.

Yours, Neugier.

Title: Re: ὁ γοῦν κυνικὸς Μένιππος ἁλμοπότιν τὴν Μύνδον φησίν (Athenaios 1.34e) → At any rate the Cynic (satirist) Menippus says that Myndus is a brine-drinking town.
Post by: billberg23 on 21 Sep, 2016, 12:27:39

Quote from: neugier on 21 Sep, 2016, 09:31:48

Is τὴν Μύνδον accusative singular femin. of ἡ Μύνδος ?

Correct!
And ἁλμοπότιν is the accusative singular feminine of a noun ἁλμοπότις, invented by Menippus as a humorous play on the noun οἰνοπότις ("[female] wine-drinker").  The noun ἁλμοπότιν (in apposition with τὴν Μύνδον)  is in the accusative case after φησίν (understand φησίν τὴν Μύνδον ἁλμοπότιν εἶναι.
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Title: Re: ὁ γοῦν κυνικὸς Μένιππος ἁλμοπότιν τὴν Μύνδον φησίν (Athenaios 1.34e) → At any rate the Cynic (satirist) Menippus says that Myndus is a brine-drinking town.
Post by: neugier on 21 Sep, 2016, 19:35:00

aahh I see. Thanks a lot.
Yours Neugier (vom Lande).