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Translation Assistance => Other language pairs => Ancient Greek->English translation forum => Topic started by: jmorsay on 01 Sep, 2010, 02:56:58

Title: εἰ γὰρ νῦν εἰς τὴν χώραν μή ᾔεισθα, ὦ αἴσχιστε.
Post by: jmorsay on 01 Sep, 2010, 02:56:58
εἰ γαρ νῦν  εἰς την χώραν μή  ᾔεισθα, ὦ αἴσχιστε.

My translation: If only you didn't come into house, most shameful man.

Is this correct?
thank you  
Title: Re: εἰ γὰρ νῦν εἰς τὴν χώραν μή ᾔεισθα, ὦ αἴσχιστε.
Post by: billberg23 on 01 Sep, 2010, 04:18:40
into house
Υοu did fine with the structure of the sentence, JM.  But do look up ἡ χώρα again, and distinguish it from ὁ οἶκος.

The imperfect indicative is used here in the same way it's used in present contrary-to-fact conditions.  Therefore, the best translation would be "If only you weren't coming into the country now."  (Don't forget to translate νῦν !)
Title: Re: εἰ γὰρ νῦν εἰς τὴν χώραν μή ᾔεισθα, ὦ αἴσχιστε.
Post by: jmorsay on 01 Oct, 2010, 01:44:29

I have one question.

Can house be both οἶκος and οἰκίᾱ? Is there a diffrence in meaning.

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Title: Re: εἰ γὰρ νῦν εἰς τὴν χώραν μή ᾔεισθα, ὦ αἴσχιστε.
Post by: billberg23 on 01 Oct, 2010, 02:01:59
Good question, JM.
Oἶκος is the older word.  In Homer and later authors, it meant an individual dwelling-place:  room, house, apartment, etc.  Oἰκίᾱ is post-homeric;  originally interchangeable with οἶκος, by Plato's time it had come to mean "household," i.e. the whole family, including servants and slaves.