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Translation Assistance => Other language pairs => Ancient Greek→English translation forum => Topic started by: jmorsay on 08 Jul, 2009, 00:29:30

Title: τοῦ αὐτοῦ γε ρήτορος ἐϰ τῆς νήσου ἥϰοντος αὑτοὶ ἠϰούσαμεν τάδε· Ἀϰούετε, ὦ πολῖται. ἐπειδὰν οἱ ταύτης τῆς γυναικὸς φονεῖς εἰς ἀγορὰν ἥϰωσι τὰ χρήματα λαβόντες, φόνου δίϰην γράψομαί πως αὐτοὺς πάντας.
Post by: jmorsay on 08 Jul, 2009, 00:29:30

τοῦ αὐτοῦ γε ρήτορος ἐϰ τῆς νήσου ἥϰοντος αὑτοὶ ἠϰούσαμευ τάδε· Ἀϰούετε, ὦ πολιται. ἐπειδὰν οἱ ταύτης τῆς γυναικὸς φονεῖς εἰς ἀγορὰν ἥϰωσι τὰ χρήματα λαβόντες, φόνου δίϰην γράψομαί πως αὐτους πάντας.

My translation: We ourselves heard these things said by the same orator who went away from the island. You are being heard, citazen.

the last sentence I could not translate.

why is "Ἀϰούετε" capatal?

thank you

Title: τοῦ αὐτοῦ γε ρήτορος ἐϰ τῆς νήσου ἥϰοντος αὑτοὶ ἠϰούσαμεν τάδε· Ἀϰούετε, ὦ πολῖται. ἐπειδὰν οἱ ταύτης τῆς γυναικὸς φονεῖς εἰς ἀγορὰν ἥϰωσι τὰ χρήματα λαβόντες, φόνου δίϰην γράψομαί πως αὐτοὺς πάντας.
Post by: billberg23 on 08 Jul, 2009, 02:36:32

τοῦ αὐτοῦ γε ρήτορος ἐϰ τῆς νήσου ἥϰοντος:  "from the very same orator who arrived from the island."

Ἀϰούετε:  present active imperative.  When you begin a direct quotation, you capitalize the first word, in Greek as in English.

πολῖται:  We have to ask you to pay extra special attention from now on, JM, to the difference between singular and plural!  And notice the English spelling of "citizen."

ἐπειδὰν ἥϰωσι = "whenever (as soon as) they should arrive."  The subject of ἥϰωσι is οἱ φονεῖς.

λαβόντες:  aorist active participle of λαμβάνω.  "having taken," "after taking."

δίκην γράψομαι αὐτοὺς πάντας = "I will bring an indictment against them all."

πως = "somehow or other."

Title: τοῦ αὐτοῦ γε ρήτορος ἐϰ τῆς νήσου ἥϰοντος αὑτοὶ ἠϰούσαμεν τάδε· Ἀϰούετε, ὦ πολῖται. ἐπειδὰν οἱ ταύτης τῆς γυναικὸς φονεῖς εἰς ἀγορὰν ἥϰωσι τὰ χρήματα λαβόντες, φόνου δίϰην γράψομαί πως αὐτοὺς πάντας.
Post by: jmorsay on 08 Jul, 2009, 18:56:31

my translation: We ourselves heard these things from the very same orator who arrived from the island. Listen, citazens. Whenever the murderers of these women arrived at the market, having taken letters, somehow I will bring an indictment against them all.

Is this correct?

Title: τοῦ αὐτοῦ γε ρήτορος ἐϰ τῆς νήσου ἥϰοντος αὑτοὶ ἠϰούσαμεν τάδε· Ἀϰούετε, ὦ πολῖται. ἐπειδὰν οἱ ταύτης τῆς γυναικὸς φονεῖς εἰς ἀγορὰν ἥϰωσι τὰ χρήματα λαβόντες, φόνου δίϰην γράψομαί πως αὐτοὺς πάντας.
Post by: billberg23 on 08 Jul, 2009, 19:38:00

ταύτης τῆς γυναικὸς:  Is this singular or plural?  How do you know for sure?

ἥϰωσι:  Notice that this is subjunctive.  The subjunctive has no "tense" of its own;  instead, it takes its tense from that of the main (indicative) verb.  So it can't be "arrived;"  it must be "will arrive" or just "arrive."

χρήματα is not the same as γράμματα .

φόνου = "of murder" (indictment of murder, murder indictment)

Αnd again, note the English spelling of "citizens."