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The Da Vinci Code
« on: 19 May, 2006, 21:26:15 »
Έχω διαβάσει (και ακούσει) ένα κάρο πράγματα για το βιβλίο αλλά το ίδιο δεν το διάβασα. Όχι από αντίδραση, απλώς δεν διαβάζω τέτοια βιβλία εδώ και πολλά χρόνια. Όχι διότι τα σνομπάρω, απλώς είναι λίγες οι ώρες και αυστηρές οι επιλογές.

Τέλος πάντων, για άλλο λόγο ανοίγω αυτό το νήμα, όχι για να ανοίξουμε κι εδώ συζήτηση για τα χιλιοσυζητημένα. Ως κινηματογραφόφιλος, είμαι, από τότε που μπήκα στο διαδίκτυο, τακτικός επισκέπτης του imdb και τακτικός αναγνώστης του αγαπημένου μου κριτικού, του Roger Ebert. Αφού παρακολουθήσω μια ταινία (ενίοτε και πολύ πριν), διαβάζω ανελλιπώς και την κριτική του Ebert (δημοσιεύονται ή δημοσιεύονταν και μεταφρασμένες στα Νέα).

Μπορείτε να τις βρείτε εδώ ή, για κάθε ταινία του imdb, φιγουράρει πρώτη-πρώτη στα Reviews.

Θαυμάζω τον Ebert για την ευρυμάθειά του, το χιούμορ του και την επαφή του με τα γούστα ενός κάπως πιο απαιτητικού κοινού χωρίς να απευθύνεται στους δέκα που ανέχονται μόνο τον Ειζενστάιν, ας πούμε.

Θα ήθελα να καταθέσω εδώ την κριτική του για την ταινία The Da Vinci Code, για να δείτε, αν θέλετε, τον τρόπο που παρουσιάζει ζητήματα για τα οποία άλλοι έχουν σφαχτεί – με το αγγλοσαξονικό χιούμορ που λατρεύω.

The Da Vinci Code
Veni, Vidi, Da Vinci

Release Date: 2006

Ebert Rating: ***     

BY ROGER EBERT / May 17, 2006

They say The Da Vinci Code has sold more copies than any book since the Bible. Good thing it has a different ending. Dan Brown's novel is utterly preposterous; Ron Howard's movie is preposterously entertaining. Both contain accusations against the Catholic Church and its order of Opus Dei that would be scandalous if anyone of sound mind could possibly entertain them. I know there are people who believe Brown's fantasies about the Holy Grail, the descendants of Jesus, the Knights Templar, Opus Dei and the true story of Mary Magdalene. This has the advantage of distracting them from the theory that the Pentagon was not hit by an airplane.

Let us begin, then, by agreeing that The Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction. And that since everyone has read the novel, I need only give away one secret -- that the movie follows the book religiously. While the book is a potboiler written with little grace and style, it does supply an intriguing plot. Luckily, Ron Howard is a better filmmaker than Dan Brown is a novelist; he follows Brown's formula (exotic location, startling revelation, desperate chase scene, repeat as needed) and elevates it into a superior entertainment, with Tom Hanks as a theo-intellectual Indiana Jones.

Hanks stars as Robert Langdon, a Harvard symbologist in Paris for a lecture when Inspector Fache (Jean Reno) informs him of the murder of museum curator Jacques Sauniere (Jean-Pierre Marielle). This poor man has been shot and will die late at night inside the Louvre; his wounds, although mortal, fortunately leave him time enough to conceal a safe deposit key, strip himself, cover his body with symbols written in his own blood, arrange his body in a pose and within a design by Da Vinci, and write out, also in blood, an encrypted message, a scrambled numerical sequence and a footnote to Sophie Neveu (Audrey Tautou), the pretty French policewoman whom he raised after the death of her parents. Most people are content with a dying word or two; Jacques leaves us with a film treatment.

Having read the novel, we know what happens then. Sophie warns Robert he is in danger from Fache, and they elude capture in the Louvre and set off on a quest that leads them to the vault of a private bank, to the French villa of Sir Leigh Teabing (Ian McKellen), to the Temple Church in London, to an isolated Templar church in the British countryside, to a hidden crypt and then back to the Louvre again. The police, both French and British, are one step behind them all of this time, but Sophie and Robert are facile, inventive and daring. Also, perhaps, they have God on their side.

This series of chases, discoveries and escapes is intercut with another story, involving an albino named Silas (Paul Bettany), who works under the command of the Teacher, a mysterious figure at the center of a conspiracy to conceal the location of the Holy Grail, what it really is, and what that implies. The conspiracy involves members of Opus Dei, a society of Catholics who in real life (I learn from a recent issue of the Spectator) are rather conventionally devout and prayerful. Although the movie describes their practices as "maso-chastity," not all of them are chaste and hardly any practice self-flagellation. In the months ahead, I would advise Opus Dei to carefully scrutinize membership applications.

Opus Dei works within but not with the church, which also harbors a secret cell of cardinals who are in on the conspiracy (the pope and most other Catholics apparently don't have backstage passes).

These men keep a secret that, if known, could destroy the church. That's why they keep it. If I were their adviser, I would point out that by preserving the secret, they preserve the threat to the church, and the wisest strategy would have been to destroy the secret, say, 1,000 years ago.

But one of the fascinations of the Catholic Church is that it is the oldest continuously surviving organization in the world, and that's why movies like "The Da Vinci Code" are more fascinating than thrillers about religions founded, for example, by a science-fiction author in the 1950s. All of the places in "The Da Vinci Code" really exist, though the last time I visited the Temple Church I was disappointed to find it closed for "repairs." A likely story.

Tom Hanks, Audrey Tautou and Jean Reno do a good job of not overplaying their roles, and Sir Ian McKellen overplays his in just the right way, making Sir Leigh into a fanatic whose study just happens to contain all the materials for an audio-visual presentation that briefs his visitors on the secrets of Da Vinci's "The Last Supper" and other matters. Apparently he keeps in close touch with other initiates. On the one hand, we have a conspiracy that lasts 2,000 years and threatens the very foundations of Christianity, and on the other hand a network of rich dilettantes who resemble a theological branch of the Baker Street Irregulars.

Yes, the plot is absurd, but then most movie plots are absurd. That's what we pay to see. What Ron Howard brings to the material is tone and style, and an aura of mystery that is undeniable. He begins right at the top; Columbia Pictures logo falls into shadow as Hans Zimmer's music sounds simultaneously liturgical and ominous. The murder scene in the Louvre is creepy in a ritualistic way, and it's clever the way Langdon is able to look at letters, numbers and symbols and mentally rearrange them to yield their secrets. He's like the Flora Cross character in "Bee Season," who used kabbalistic magic to visualize spelling words floating before her in the air.

The movie works; it's involving, intriguing and constantly seems on the edge of startling revelations. After it's over and we're back on the street, we wonder why this crucial secret needed to be protected by the equivalent of a brain-twister puzzle crossed with a scavenger hunt. The trail that Robert and Sophie follow is so difficult and convoluted that it seems impossible that anyone, including them, could ever follow it. The secret needs to be protected up to a point; beyond that it is absolutely lost, and the whole point of protecting it is beside the point. Here's another question: Considering where the trail begins, isn't it sort of curious where it leads? Still, as T.S. Eliot wrote, "In my beginning is my end." Maybe he was on to something.





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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #1 on: 19 May, 2006, 22:19:03 »
Έχω διαβάσει (και ακούσει) ένα κάρο πράγματα για το βιβλίο αλλά το ίδιο δεν το διάβασα.
....
Eγώ το διάβασα. Σε αεροπλάνο. :-))
Couldn't put it down. You didn't miss a thing.
:-)))))
.... – με το αγγλοσαξονικό χιούμορ που λατρεύω.
Αχ! Missing home! :-)))

A review for all seasons
Three assessments of The Da Vinci Code — according to taste
 
 


(I) Can Christians ever look at the Last Supper again without a frisson of anticipation? Will the Louvre reveal its ultimate secret — the vault in Lincoln’s Inn, where the Knights Templar hid the chalice of Childeric III, the last of the Merovingian dynasty, before it was stolen by priestly enemies of Granville Hedrick, the Mormon dissident, and used as a totemic initiation cup in Masonic rituals? Only a film with the power, magic and magnificence of The Da Vinci Code can open our eyes to cults, enigmas and semiotics that for 2,000 years have distorted the Christian message. Only Dan Brown and Tom Hanks could dazzle the screen . . .

(II) Lukewarm pap is too polite — such a travesty of the Christian message wrapped in the mumbo-jumbo of Merovingian kings and Renaissance symbolism. This film is no more than a spaghetti western set in the 14th cen-tury, a coded cacophony of cardboard characters with bad haircuts and pseudo-historical names, a concoction of anagrams and Grail legends that would disgrace a Monty Python farce. Only Dan Brown and Tom Hanks could plumb such populist depths . . .

 
 
(III) On the one hand, these performances are, perhaps, good and bad in equal measure. On the other hand, we have an interesting story that has captured a certain Zeitgeist; and on a further hand, we have a somewhat con- voluted depiction of the Opus Dei philosophy that does not always accord with historical principles or the credibility of its practitioners. One is minded to congratulate Mr Hanks for his robust characterisation and Ms Tautou for her comely support. But one is also minded to note the shortcomings of the acting, which is, in parts, good and . . .


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,542-2184027,00.html
 
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p.s.: Εννοείται ότι θα δω ΚΑΙ την ταινία. Ο Richard Harris πέθανε, όπως κι ο Κατράκης κι ο Cousteau.
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Aπό αδυναμίες μου έμεινε ο (Sir) Ian McKellen και ο Peter o'Toole (άντε και ο Connery).

p.p.s.: Όσο για τον Tom Hanks... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaase! Despicable casting! Πού είναι ο Harrison;
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2005 THE DA VINCI CODE
On location at Lincoln Cathedral, August 2005 Enlarge
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p.p.p.s.: Βουτηγμένη στο denial (anglo-saxon denial that is) ούτε καν ανέφερα τον Γάλλο κι ας τις έχω όλες τις ταινιούλες του! Ντροπή μου!


(Kι όποιος δεν έχει δει το Les Visiteurs χάνει. ¨-) To II mediocr-έστατο.) Τις πιο γνωστές δεν τις πιάνω μια και νομίζω τις ξέρουμε όλοι.

¨-)
Αdieu!
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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #2 on: 25 May, 2006, 10:28:45 »

p.p.p.s.: Βουτηγμένη στο denial (anglo-saxon denial that is) ούτε καν ανέφερα τον Γάλλο κι ας τις έχω όλες τις ταινιούλες του! Ντροπή μου!


(Kι όποιος δεν έχει δει το Les Visiteurs χάνει. ¨-) To II mediocr-έστατο.) Τις πιο γνωστές δεν τις πιάνω μια και νομίζω τις ξέρουμε όλοι.

¨-)
Αdieu!

Η αγαπημένη μου γαλλική κωμωδία!! Δέν τη βρίσκω σε κανένα DVD club! Το ΙΙ, δέν θα ήθελα να το δω, για να μήν απογοητευτώ...


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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #3 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:24:34 »
Και εγώ δεν το διάβασα για τους ίδιους λόγους που ισχύουν για τον Νίκο.
Ωστόσο είδα την ταινία. Μου φάνηκε ένα αρκετά περίπλοκο αστυνομικό θρίλερ το οποίο θα θεωρούσα μέτριο. Μια φίλη μου που είχε διαβάσει το βιβλίο δεν εντυπωσιάστηκε καθόλου (αναμενόμενο).

Συμπαθέστατη η πρωταγωνίστρια.
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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #4 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:28:42 »
Προσπαθώ να καταλάβω (και η απάντησή σας θα είναι ίσως η καλύτερη απάντηση στις εξαλλοσύνες που παρακολουθήσαμε): Ο καλύτερος λόγος να δεις την ταινία είναι ο Μακ Κέλεν, ο Ρενό ή η πρωταγωνίστρια;

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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #5 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:30:45 »
Κοίτα, εγώ έχω αδυναμία στο γαλλικό στυλ (βλέπε επίσης Julie Delpy, Irene Jacobe, etc - για να μην αναφέρω την "πρόσφατη" από τον "Εραστή της κομμώτριας" Anna Galiena). Ο Tom Hanks ήταν επίσης καλός. Γενικά πάντως δεν είναι μια ταινία που σε ενθουσιάζει καθώς αν δεν έχεις διαβάσει το βιβλίο δεν καταλαβαίνεις και πολλά έτσι κι αλλιώς (ή ίσως φταίει ο χαμηλός δείκτης της δικής μου νοημοσύνης).
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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #6 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:34:51 »
ίσως φταίει ο χαμηλός δείκτης της δικής μου νοημοσύνης

Ε δεν είσαι και για τα ανέκδοτα για blonds (αλλά ούτε κι ο Dan Brown...).

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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #7 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:35:44 »
Όταν σε μια ταινία ή σε ένα βιβλίο ο μέσος θεατής ή αναγνώστης δεν καταλαβαίνει πολλά πολλά, άποψή μου είναι ότι δεν φταίει ο δείκτης νοημοσύνης του θεατή ή του αναγνώστη.

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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #8 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:37:51 »
Ακόμη κι αν ο θεατής ή αναγνώστης είναι στούκος; ):

Παρεμπιπτόντως, στο μπροστινό κάθισμα του υπάιθριου σινεμά στην πλατεία Κυδαθηναίων στην Πλάκα, με θέα την Ακρόπολη και λούλουδα στα παρτέρια, ήταν και τρεις κορασίδες ανατολικής καταγωγής - υποθέτω ότι για αυτές θα ήταν ακόμη πιο δύσκολα τα πράγματα καθώς πολλοί διάλογοι ήταν στα λατινικά ):

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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #9 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:41:17 »
Kαι πού το ξέρεις ότι δεν ήταν λατινομαθείς;

Όσο για τους στούκους, αν δεν κάνω λάθος ανέφερα ένα μέσο θεατή ή αναγνώστη που συνήθως γνωρίζει γραφή, ανάγνωση και κατανόηση κειμένου.:-)))

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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #10 on: 25 May, 2006, 16:45:54 »
Kαι πού το ξέρεις ότι δεν ήταν λατινομαθείς;

Σιγά μην ήταν και αρχαιομαθείς ):
Εδώ εγώ με το ζόρι καταλάβαινα τι έλεγαν αν δεν κοιτούσα τους υπότιτλους, τα ρημάδια τα λατινικά με αγγλική προφορά γίνονται αγνώριστα!

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Re: The Da Vinci Code
« Reply #11 on: 25 May, 2006, 17:00:16 »
Εδώ μπορείτε να απολαύσετε ορισμένες τεχνολογικής κυρίως φύσεως ανακρίβειες της ταινίας.
 Εγώ ετοιμάζομαι να το δω σε λίγο, όχι τίποτε άλλο για να έχω άποψη (θα μου πεις: πήγες και στην Καμπούλ τότε για να έχεις άποψη;)
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