Author Topic: ask no quarter, none given -> δεν χαρίζουμε κάστανα εδώ, δεν χαριζόμαστε σε κανέναν, δεν περνάνε και πολλά-πολλά, δεν έχει και πολλά-πολλά σε μένα, δε μασάω εγώ, χωρίς κανέναν οίκτο, αμείλικτα, αδυσώπητα, ανηλεώς  (Read 4539 times)

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Νομίζω ότι μου δώσατε πολλές ιδέες και σας ευχαριστώ. Ακόμα δεν έχω αποφασίσει τι θα βάλω. Θα το ξανακοιτάξω αργότερα.


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Τότε άσε τα κάστανα μόνα τους.

Έχει δικό της μπαϊράκι αυτή: δεν χαρίζει κάστανα κι ούτε ζητάει χάρες.
Χε. :) With Vicky on this one.
Oύτε να σου χρωστάνε, ούτε να χρωστάς ή απλώς "επί ίσοις όροις" μια και έχουμε και πεζοναύτες.  Ωραίο και το μπαϊράκι.
(Oύτε μια βόλτα στο πάρκο ν'ακούσουμε λίγη μουσική... επιτέλους).
Το "τόσο" δυνατό... debatable:

The idiom is certainly odd. So far as I can understand, it’s the result of a series of shifts in meaning and the growth of various idioms which took place in the period from late medieval times into the seventeenth century.

In the fourteenth century, quarter added to its basic meaning of the fourth part of something by taking on a sense of one of the four principal divisions of the horizon or the points of the compass. It then seems to have transferred to one of the four quarters of a city, in particular one occupied by a specific group (as we might still today speak of “the French quarter”), not literally meaning one fourth of the area, but a rough direction based on the four main compass points. The same meaning was applied to one section of an army camp. So quarter came to have attached to it the idea of an area in which one lived, and further shifts of meaning seem to have taken place that lead to quarters (in the plural) for one’s living accommodation, especially in military contexts.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-giv1.htm
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There seem to have been one or two further stages. By the 1590s an idiom to keep good quarters with had grown up, meaning to have good relations with a person, presumably a reference to the need to stay on good terms with those living with or around you—Shakespeare used it in The Comedy of Errors in 1590 in a way that showed he was having fun with an expression already well known. So to give no quarter might have meant “don’t show any friendliness to the enemy”. It’s possible also that to give quarters could refer to the need to provide prisoners with a place to stay, so that to give no quarter was a figurative way of saying “take no prisoners”.



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Χε. :) With Vicky on this one.

Αν είναι να αρχίσουμε να ψηφίζουμε εδώ με αγκρί, να μας πεις και ποιο απ' όλα ψηφίζεις γιατί έχουμε όλοι διαγράψει μια πορεία σ' αυτό το νήμα. Κι εγώ είμαι σε "take no prisoners" mood.

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Αν είναι να αρχίσουμε να ψηφίζουμε εδώ με αγκρί, να μας πεις και ποιο απ' όλα ψηφίζεις γιατί έχουμε όλοι διαγράψει μια πορεία σ' αυτό το νήμα. Κι εγώ είμαι σε "take no prisoners" mood.
Ποιος σε πείραξε να τον σκοτώσω; :))
Tην είπα τη γνώμη μου. :)

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δεν περνάνε και πολλά-πολλά, δεν έχει και πολλά-πολλά σε μένα, δε μασάω εγώ, χωρίς κανέναν οίκτο, αμείλικτα, αδυσώπητα, ανηλεώς

mercy, pity, compassion, favour, charity, sympathy, tolerance, kindness, forgiveness, indulgence, clemency, leniency, forbearance, lenity It is bloody brutal work, with no quarter given.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quarter

To show no mercy. Refuse to give an opponent the oppurtunity to quit or rest. This use of quarter is probably derived from the meaning of quarter which refers to shelter, as in head quarters. Thus, no quarter means that your opponent is offered no retreat to shelter or protection.
"I shall give no quarter." Said the first dueller.
"None given or asked." Replied his opponent.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no%20quarter