Re: ἀγαθός που τὴν τέχνην οὗτος ὁ ζωράφος, αἰσχρὸς δὲ τοὺς τρόπους. μηχανᾶται γὰρ μετὰ τῶν ἐταίρων ὅπως λύσᾱς τὴν δημοκρατίᾱν πάσης τῆς πόλεως ἄρξει.

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ἀγαθός που τὴν τέχνην οὗτος ὁ ζωράφος, αἰσχρὸς δὲ τοὺς τροπους. μηχανᾶται γὰρ μετὰ τῶν ἐταίρων ὅπως λύσᾱς τὴν δημοκρατίᾱν πάσης τῆς πόλεως ἄρξει.

my translation:This artist is good with skill, I think, but shameful with place. For contriving with the companion that he will rule every city, since dissloving the democrasy.

What does "τοὺς τροπους" mean here?

Is this correct?

« Last Edit: 11 Mar, 2010, 07:52:09 by billberg23 »


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What does "τοὺς τροπους" mean here?
Plural, accusative of respect.  "With respect to his ways (i.e. his character)."  Looks like you looked up τόπος instead of τρόπος.

μηχανᾶται is not a participle.  It is a third person singular, present middle indicative verb.

τῶν ἐταίρων is plural.  Again, JM, review your second declension.

λύσᾱς is an aorist active participle, masculine singular nominative:  "having dissolved," "after dissolving."

πᾶσα πόλις = every city
πᾶσα ἡ πόλις = the whole city

P.S  I like the way you translated που here.
« Last Edit: 06 Nov, 2009, 16:43:12 by billberg23 »



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My new translation: This artist good with respect to skill, I think, but shameful with respect with his character. He was contrived with the companions that he will rule the whole city, after dissloving the democrasy.

Is it correct?

thank you


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"This artist is good ..."  We've seen before how Greek likes to leave out the verb "to be" (εἰμί).

Αs I mentioned in my last post, "μηχανᾶται is ... a third person singular, present middle indicative verb."  Middle, not passive; present, not past.  So "he is contriving ... how he will rule ..."

Finally, note the spelling of "democracy."  It's an important word hereabouts.





 

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