τοῦδε τοῦ κρέως -> of me, of my flesh, of yours truly

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τοῦδε τοῦ κρέως -> of this flesh, of me, of my body

κρέας = carcass: hence, body, person, τοῦδε τοῦ κρέως (i.e. ἐμοῦ) Sophocles, Chryses fr. 728 (satyric): in Com. addresses, like κάρα, ὦ δεξιώτατον κρέας "O most fortunate flesh" (Aristophanes, Knights 421)
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yours truly
(idiomatic, informal, humorous) I, me, or myself.
This one was created by yours truly.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yours_truly
« Last Edit: 06 Apr, 2020, 15:02:51 by billberg23 »


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Assuming the context of the complete phrase to be sacrificial, Hugh Lloyd-Jones (Loeb) translates τοιοῦτος ὢν ἄρξειε τοῦδε τοῦ κρέως (Sophocles, fr. 728 of Chryses) as “that being such as he is he should have power over this body,” and goes on to comment, “The word rendered ‘body’ properly means ‘meat,’ and its use in this sense is comic.”  It was Jebb (The Fragments of Sophocles) who wrote that “τοῦδε τοῦ κρέως is generally assumed on the authority of Aristarchus to be a periphrasis for the pronoun ἐμοῦ (or possibly ἐκείνου) … Observe however that the words may have borne a stronger meaning ' master of this my flesh.' But in neither case is it credible that κρέας would have been used if the quotation was taken from a tragedy.  Outside the Cyclops, κρέας is only applied to human flesh in reference to the banquet of Thyestes. It is possible, therefore, and perhaps not unlikely that the Chryses was a satyric play.”



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Yes, yours truly could be misconstrued for its literal sense, however, at least in the UK, it is used quite commonly with the humorous sense, and since the Greek text is humorous, then it could make sense as it is on the same register.


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Also used in the U.S. in the humorous sense.  Still, one's first assumption is that "yours truly" is the final salutation in a letter, and that's not what's meant in the Greek.  Perhaps "of yours truly" would clear up the confusion.




 

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